Saturday, March 20, 2010

Return of Thunder still quite cloudy

Whether or not the Borderland Thunder return to Fort Frances may be a matter forced into the hands of the courts. At a meeting here last Wednesday (Feb. 1), 50 people turned out to address the difficulties supporters are having in their attempts to resurrect the Thunder. Former Thunder general manager Brent Tookenay had sent a letter on behalf of Thunder supporters to Hockey Northwestern Ontario (HNWO) requesting the team be given permission to join the Manitoba Junior Hockey League. The response was an emphatic “no.” “I’m not impressed with Hockey Northwestern Ontario,” said Tookenay. “They said no [but] haven’t even given us a reason why.” Tookenay and supporters have their own suspicions as to why HNWO isn’t granting their request. “It’s [HNWO] based out of Thunder Bay [and] they’re doing fine without us, so what’s the difference if we’re involved,” he argued. “All they care about is Thunder Bay. “We got outvoted before we even got started,” he charged. But Lynn Kellar of Fort Frances, a first-time HNWO Western Zone rep, said that’s not the case. “The board’s perspective is that we have a league in the branch [the Superior International Junior Hockey League] and they want to support that league,” he explained. The Thunder had belonged to the SIJHL before they folded after the 2004/05 season because of financial difficulties. Tookenay said it would be no problem re-joining the SIJHL if there were sponsors out there who were willing to support the team. “We can’t get investors to invest in the SIJHL,” he noted. “But as soon as [there was talk the Thunder] might be joining the Manitoba league, I had people calling me offering to support the team.” So why are people willing to support the MJHL and not the SIJHL? According to Tookenay, the problem lies in the calibre of hockey, the amount of competition the Thunder faced and the fact each team would have to play each other 12 times each season. Given there were just five teams in the SIJHL, fans were losing interest when they could foresee the outcome of the game. “To have a hockey team, you need to have people in the stands,” Tookenay stressed. “Half the teams were weaker than us and it got hard to sell tickets.” Thunder supporters argue it’s not economical to re-join the SIJHL, but Kellar said it’s more than just a financial issue from the HNWO’s standpoint. “They’re worried that if they allow one team to go, then more will want to follow,” Kellar explained. “Dryden [Ice Dogs] would probably want to do the same thing and then there would be no northwestern teams in Ontario.” But Tookenay disagreed. “The league in Thunder Bay would still have four teams and it has been stated that they would run a three-team league,” he said. “Who knows if Dryden will even pursue the MJHL if we go?” he added. “They are running their franchise and we will go about our business. “We’re just trying to have a junior hockey team and HNWO [is] standing in our way,” Tookenay charged. In the meantime, Tookenay and other Thunder supporters are not ready to give up just yet. “Right now we are exploring getting a lawyer and taking this to the courts,” he said.

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Give me a break

You can't expect to grow a league successfully when one of your core franchises is looking to move out after 2 seasons.

blades for sale

southeast blade of the mjhl are for sale, 150 grand for franchise fee plus 50 g relocation fee. Maybe mr tookenay can find some investors locally to move that club here. doubt there's any real legal obstacles the local hockey association can use to prevent such a move.

Give me a break

Don't know what the Thunder expected when they bought in originally. Thunder Bay is not a junior town. They had the Flyers who were very successful in the USHL but still they had to leave because of lack of support. The LU Thunderwolves, for about the same price, offer WAY better hockey without the bush-league shenanigans of the SIJHL.

Give me a break

It should be better hockey, they are all ex major junior players and ex pros. Don't forget that two thirds of the crowd for LU games are students. It is two different things. Why Thunder Bay wouldn't support at least the North Stars which are one of the better junior A teams in Canada over the past 3 years is beyond me. If LU is so good why do they get blown out by teams like UMD and Lake State, which is where some of the SIJHL players have been recruited by. The Thunder expected at least some sort of professionalism with the SIJHL. They expected some type of commitment by the teams in Thunder Bay to help make the league work. From the Thunder's point of view they hoped that the league would expand and grow but you need leadership for that to happen. HNO and the SIJHL have not given that...........they have allowed the league to run bare bones and that will not work. Don't get ahead of yourself here either because I know that the crowds for LU are down. Thunder Bay will only support a winner even if it means hurting the league.

Give me a break

You can't expect a league to survive when you have five teams and two of them are bush league (bulldogs and golden hawks).........give me a break