Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Council split on animal control bylaw
Wednesday, 13 August 2008 - 2:50pm
In a report to council, Planning and Development superintendent Rick Hallam said that, other than corrections to language and outdated references (such as fines, fees, the Municipal Act, the Chief of Police, etc.), and issues of dealing with “the annoyance of barking dogs,” the bylaw meets the present needs for animal control in Fort Frances.
Accordingly, the recommendations to council Monday night included that the clerk make the necessary language and reference corrections, and the clerk (after reviewing provincial law and what’s done in other municipalities), advise council of the legalities of including in the bylaw the use of electronic anti-barking collars for nuisance dogs.
Coun. Andrew Hallikas, who sits on the Planning and Development executive committee with Couns. Rick Wiedenhoeft and John Albanese, said that aside from cleaning up the wording, he found the bylaw sufficient to meet the needs of the Town of Fort Frances.
“I asked our bylaw officers exactly how many complaints were we getting . . . they indicated that there wasn’t a lot, that there isn’t a problem. . . .
“So if there wasn’t a problem, why should we create additional legislation?” he wondered.
“I’m a strong believer in the ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ philosophy,” noted Coun. Wiedenhoeft. “Right now, we have to believe, according to our bylaw officers, that we don’t have a problem in this community.
“And if we don’t have a problem in this community, what is more legislation going to do to fix a problem that doesn’t exist?”
While Coun. Wiedenhoeft feels more people should be licensing their dogs more than they do (only an estimated 50 percent of dog owners in town have), he said limiting the number of dogs a person can have doesn’t make sense—it’s all about the level of care each owner gives their animals.
“My personal opinion is if a person has one dog, it can be as big a problem as a person who has five dogs,” he remarked.
“Right now, I believe we do not have a problem with dogs in our community, and the bylaw that exists takes care of our needs right now,” stressed Coun. Wiedenhoeft. “I don’t think we should fix something that ain’t broke.”
But other councillors contended the animal control bylaw needs further review.
Coun. Albanese said he’d like to see the cost of licensing go up according to how many pets the owner registers to discourage people from having so many animals in their household.
He’d also like to make sure the bylaw applied equally to both dogs and cats.
Mayor Roy Avis, who brought the motion to review the bylaw before council at its July 28 meeting, said he has several issues with it.
“I believe we should have some sort of control over the number of animals per household,” he noted, adding he also would like to see licensing compulsory for pet owners.
Right now, he pointed out, the only time owners are forced to license their dog or cat is when the animal is impounded—and the owner has come to get it back.
He’d also like to better clarify the process by which animal complaints are handled. Currently, the onus falls too heavily on complainants, possibly making them “gun shy” to file reports.
Coun Ken Perry agreed he’d like to see licensing mandatory, and implemented on a graduated fee scale.
“I don’t think we should wait until the dog’s impounded before we make them get a license,” he noted.
Coun. Albanese said he knows of two local residents, in particular, who have showed serious concern over neighbours’ animals.
“What are we going to do? Wait until we have a lineup of people complaining about what’s going on with their next-door neighbours?” he asked.
But Hallam reiterated that the bylaw isn’t “broken.”
“When you look around Fort Frances and the numbers of households, and the numbers of pets contained within those households, and there’s two incidents—one in the west end and one in the east end, it doesn’t necessarily mean the engine is broken.
“It just means we’ve got some work to do.”
He mentioned every municipality has issues with dogs defecating in public places, but every day he sees dog owners being responsible and cleaning up after their canines.
Hallam added every municipality has problems with dogs running at large, but locally, the owners of most dogs impounded either are identified by the complainants or simply show up—looking for their dog—and are dealt with by the town.
“Nuisance dogs are being dealt with,” Hallam stressed.
“We’ve got some problems. Let’s deal with it—that’s all I ask for,” countered Coun. Albanese, adding he’d like to stop residents from fighting over animal control issues and be “better neighbours.”
Council eventually voted 4-3 against the committee’s recommendation to simply make corrections to the language and outdated references in the bylaw.
Council then passed a separate motion to send the animal control bylaw back to the Planning and Development executive committee for further review.
(Fort Frances Times)
FORT FRANCES—While some councillors feel the town’s animal control bylaw only needs a grooming, others are convinced the leash needs to be tightened.
The topic was discussed at length during Monday night’s meeting after the bylaw was reviewed by the Planning and Development executive committee in late July, and came back to council with recommendations some felt weren’t enough.
Accordingly, the recommendations to council Monday night included that the clerk make the necessary language and reference corrections, and the clerk (after reviewing provincial law and what’s done in other municipalities), advise council of the legalities of including in the bylaw the use of electronic anti-barking collars for nuisance dogs.
Coun. Andrew Hallikas, who sits on the Planning and Development executive committee with Couns. Rick Wiedenhoeft and John Albanese, said that aside from cleaning up the wording, he found the bylaw sufficient to meet the needs of the Town of Fort Frances.
“I asked our bylaw officers exactly how many complaints were we getting . . . they indicated that there wasn’t a lot, that there isn’t a problem. . . .
“So if there wasn’t a problem, why should we create additional legislation?” he wondered.
“I’m a strong believer in the ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ philosophy,” noted Coun. Wiedenhoeft. “Right now, we have to believe, according to our bylaw officers, that we don’t have a problem in this community.
“And if we don’t have a problem in this community, what is more legislation going to do to fix a problem that doesn’t exist?”
While Coun. Wiedenhoeft feels more people should be licensing their dogs more than they do (only an estimated 50 percent of dog owners in town have), he said limiting the number of dogs a person can have doesn’t make sense—it’s all about the level of care each owner gives their animals.
“My personal opinion is if a person has one dog, it can be as big a problem as a person who has five dogs,” he remarked.
“Right now, I believe we do not have a problem with dogs in our community, and the bylaw that exists takes care of our needs right now,” stressed Coun. Wiedenhoeft. “I don’t think we should fix something that ain’t broke.”
But other councillors contended the animal control bylaw needs further review.
Coun. Albanese said he’d like to see the cost of licensing go up according to how many pets the owner registers to discourage people from having so many animals in their household.
He’d also like to make sure the bylaw applied equally to both dogs and cats.
Mayor Roy Avis, who brought the motion to review the bylaw before council at its July 28 meeting, said he has several issues with it.
“I believe we should have some sort of control over the number of animals per household,” he noted, adding he also would like to see licensing compulsory for pet owners.
Right now, he pointed out, the only time owners are forced to license their dog or cat is when the animal is impounded—and the owner has come to get it back.
He’d also like to better clarify the process by which animal complaints are handled. Currently, the onus falls too heavily on complainants, possibly making them “gun shy” to file reports.
Coun Ken Perry agreed he’d like to see licensing mandatory, and implemented on a graduated fee scale.
“I don’t think we should wait until the dog’s impounded before we make them get a license,” he noted.
Coun. Albanese said he knows of two local residents, in particular, who have showed serious concern over neighbours’ animals.
“What are we going to do? Wait until we have a lineup of people complaining about what’s going on with their next-door neighbours?” he asked.
But Hallam reiterated that the bylaw isn’t “broken.”
“When you look around Fort Frances and the numbers of households, and the numbers of pets contained within those households, and there’s two incidents—one in the west end and one in the east end, it doesn’t necessarily mean the engine is broken.
“It just means we’ve got some work to do.”
He mentioned every municipality has issues with dogs defecating in public places, but every day he sees dog owners being responsible and cleaning up after their canines.
Hallam added every municipality has problems with dogs running at large, but locally, the owners of most dogs impounded either are identified by the complainants or simply show up—looking for their dog—and are dealt with by the town.
“Nuisance dogs are being dealt with,” Hallam stressed.
“We’ve got some problems. Let’s deal with it—that’s all I ask for,” countered Coun. Albanese, adding he’d like to stop residents from fighting over animal control issues and be “better neighbours.”
Council eventually voted 4-3 against the committee’s recommendation to simply make corrections to the language and outdated references in the bylaw.
Council then passed a separate motion to send the animal control bylaw back to the Planning and Development executive committee for further review.
(Fort Frances Times)







I am glad to see our tax
I am glad to see our tax dollars going to good use! Are you kidding me? If these are the issues that the mayor and choice councillors are spending time on, I seriously hope that the residents of this town think REALLY long and hard during the next election. Seems to me that the problem in this town is our leadership not barking dogs. Get back to economic development issues, making our community a safe place, health concerns, etc - you know stuff that matters. Or are these things too complex for you solve?
ANIMAL CONTROL BY-LAW
Coun. Wiedenhoeft doesn't think we have a problem with dogs in our community and Hallam thinks we have one incident in the west and one in the east, my god, take your heads out of the sand. Obviously these two do not walk a pet in this town because they would be singing a different tune. You cannot walk your dog in this town without being accosted by another dog, either one being walked without a leash or one coming out of yard where they are not tied up. Maybe By-Law Enforcement should start driving around after 5pm so they notice what is really going on and stop relying on neighbors to do their job for them. As far as being good neighbors, it is my experience that someone has to be pretty fed up to complain to the authorities - think about what they are being subjected to and the frustration they must feel when they finally do complain. PETS ARE A PROBLEM IN THIS TOWN -OPEN YOUR EYES!
animal control
With the problems with having to find homes for unwanted pet, I think it will increase if a by-law is passed limiting how many pets a household can own. Responsiblity rests on the owner. Majority of people are responsible with their pets. I agree that one should register a complaint with by-law if they feel there is a problem, that way the owner has the problem brought to their attention. If the problem isn't addressed then maybe the owner should lose the right to own the pet. The SCPC would take action for this. They are the voice to protecting the animal.
One thing I don't agree with is having to license your pets. I'm tired of having to be billed for another thing. To me its just another money grabber for the town to make money.
animal control
as a member of town council I would be embarrassed to taking time and energy to be dealing with such a frivolus issue.There are significant problems in this community i.e. current construction projects, home break ins,point park,roads,library.word on the street this all started because of one of the mayors cronies. we have lived in numerous communities and none of them had animal control that even came close to the superior level Fort Frances has.Move on Town Fathers to the issues that really need to be addressed. That is why you were elected in the first place and you have failed us so far.
Maybe Enforcement is THE REAL ISSUE
I believe that the current bylaws need to be updated making licencing manditory for all 'legged' pets. Those who refuse to pay for a licence should be heavily fined. Those who have annoying (i.e. loud) pets and those who fail to control them should also be heavily fined.
As a former dog owner I know the costs of pet ownership including proper training adds up, but pet ownership is a choice and those who choose to own one need to pay for the costs incurred by the community for enforcement.
But THE REAL ISSUE IS INFORCEMENT. Having bylaws in place to deal with complaints only work if there is inforcement of the laws. Having a bylaw officer who calls it quits when the town hall closes doesn't cut it. While I acknowledge that the town cannot afford around-the-clock enforcement costs, there are ways to cover more hours of enforecement than paying over-time or hiring additional staff. Perhaps the bylaw enforcement officers should be required to put in 1/4 of their hours after the Civic Center offices close.
animal control by-law
why do we concern ourselves with a dog bylaw
when I think of the hard time friends of mine had to landscape their property,by the Town. The mayors property is a disgrace for our entrance to Scott Street.How come he gets away with it and my friends were taken to task.two sets of rules I guess